Allergy with a quinck edema

Allergies to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

Here's a friend told that the allergy to fish is not good (category B)
www.prizyvnik.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1078
Topic of 2005 I would like to clarify? now the fish allergy is also category B? I watched the schedule of diseases, I know
article 85
Drug poisoning,medicines and biological substances, toxic effects of substances of mainly non-medical use. The impact of external causes (radiation, low, high temperatures and light, high air or water pressure and other external causes

b) with moderate impairment of functions; graph В2 of graph В3Graph В, B-IND 4 graphs НГ

Persons suffering from food allergy with clinicalmanifestations (confirmed by in-patient examination) of basic foodstuffs in accordance with the norms of the allowance of servicemen, are inspected under item "b". In other allergic diseases (urticaria, pollinosis, allergic rhinitis, dermatitis, etc.), the examination is carried out according to the relevant articles of the disease schedule, depending on the status of the functions of the affected organ or system.

After acute poisoning, toxic-allergiceffects of acute allergic diseases (anaphylactic shock, serum sickness, Lyell's syndrome, Stevens-Johnson syndrome), the effects of other external causes, the category of fitness for military service and the military specialty service is determined depending on the outcome of the diseases and functions of the affected organs or systems relevant articles of the disease schedule.


Question
And what to do next? Wait at the university on the 5th course of the diploma
In April 20 they sent a letter (I did not sign anywhere) just go for a physical examination.
1 To go there or not?
2. If I go to the allergic center and they will give me a certificate that there is an allergic to fish cho further to the military enlistment office?
3. MB wait until the university is finished and then go to the allergic center? or immediately to the military enlistment office?
The military registration and enlistment office can bounce that the wow in this hospital does not scan the allergist's help and give a referral to the hospital?
Skoka will last examination at an allergy? a week? two weeks?
If I do not pay in the state hospital, I will go through these references.

Re: Allergy to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

I can and be mistaken, so wait for the answer of the doctor-consultant.

According to article 62 of the disease schedule:
The item "b" also includes limited and often recurrent (2 or more times a year) forms of eczema, single, but large (from the palm of the patient and more) psoriatic plaques. With respect to the certificates I, IIthe schedule of illnesses with relapsing Quinck edema and (or) chronic urticaria, in case of unsuccessful inpatient treatment and continuous recurrence of blisters (urticaria) for at least 2 months, the conclusion is made on item "b".

Do you have Quincke's swelling in the medical record?

Without an established diagnosis, the military commissariat should not goin any case it is impossible. Now they will hold honey. you do not have medical certificates, you will not have a medical examination, will be recognized as fit and will be given a summons at the beginning of July (appeal extended until July 15) and will be called.

First you need to be examined and get a diagnosis.

I can and be mistaken, so wait for the answer of the doctor-consultant.

According to article 62 of the disease schedule:
The item "b" also includes limited and often recurrent (2 or more times a year) forms of eczema, single, but large (from the palm of the patient and more) psoriatic plaques. With respect to the certificates I, IIthe schedule of illnesses with relapsing Quinck edema and (or) chronic urticaria, in case of unsuccessful inpatient treatment and continuous recurrence of blisters (urticaria) for at least 2 months, the conclusion is made on item "b".

Do you have Quincke's swelling in the medical record?


First you need to be examined and get a diagnosis.

I'm fixed like when I was 3 years old. But schas too, there is (I know that the allergy was shrouded)
What does continuous recurrence mean at least 2 months?
that is, if I ate fish? 1 portion, then then I have 2 consecutive months without a break should be blisters and choking?
I have the next day, how I ate all the fishpasses. But this day is very bad for me (choking bue pain in the abdomen, rash, zoot all over the body, unable to do anything if very bad I drink a pill from allergies, but it does not help much)

Re: Allergy to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

Взято from another forum

Or is it the lawlessness of the military registration and enlistment office?
Advise as it is better to be with an allergy?
Tomorrow (on my own initiative) I go to the hospital to an allergist, they will confirm to me an allergy
Do I need any other clinical manifestations? that is, the hospital get drunk fish? to become terribly bad
Or call an ambulance?
How to pretend? and then swelling is not very noticeable (but in general, the state is poor)
A terrible sharp pain in the abdomen (so it's true)
Dizziness, suffocation
Do you have to faint?
Shit? (and how is it better to drink salted water before this and where? and how is it fixed?

The question is very serious
Below is a link that the dude did not burn alergia.
How would I do it so that the prokanalo advise pliz

Hello! For food allergies do not get "B".
I sum up the results of the marathon.
1. The son after a two-week examination in the hospital (in the direction from the military registration and enlistment office) confirmed food allergy to fish, etc. (according to analyzes).
2. There was also an old extract from the hospital on food allergy.
3. So this is not enough for "B". Probably need multiple clinical confirmation of the disease. The therapist says: eat fish and confirm. And my son does not eat allergenic foods, so as not to provoke.
4. The surgeon gave only a delay of six months. And he lay in the hospital in the direction of the therapist.
So which doctor is responsible for allergies: a therapist or a surgeon?
5. Advise what now to collect for the allotted period? Or is it useless? Can now go on to graduate school (son already defended a diploma

Re: Allergy to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

What should I do? Do you call the ambulance fish? AAAA but the panics? alive in the army will not go :-)
If allergists confirm the diagnosis of foodallergies to fish, then the military registration and enlistment office lacks confirmation of severe clinical situations. There should be records in the outpatient card or documents from hospitals, confirming fits of breathing difficulties, swelling of the mucous membranes, rashes on the skin, etc. There must be calls for first aid, treatment and repeated attempts at treatment, unsuccessful, in several medical institutions.

exemption under art.b, will be possible in the presence of a complete allergological examination with positive results recorded 2-3 times a year, by appealing to various medical institutions with exacerbation of the disease (cutaneous manifestations, Quincke's edema, dyspnoea), long-term and ineffective treatment

Here that dug in the open air

Re: Allergy to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

Here on this forum I copied the horrors about allergies. Something the military registration and enlistment office does not strongly give respite for food allergy

Hello!
My son has a food allergy, in particular, fish, chicken, eggs. There are edema Quincke and urticaria.
Five years ago he was lying in an allergic departmenthospital (in the direction of a doctor of an allergist) and received an extract with a diagnosis of allergic dermatitis, relapsing edema Quincke, food allergy, hives.
Now he undergoes a medical examination on the agenda. The inquiry is presented. But the therapist sends to the surgeon and back. Everyone says that this is not their disease. Eventually sent to the HPC with a diagnosis of allergic dermatitis, where it is necessary to give a clinical blood test and urine analysis. But this is not enough.
What to do? Whether we can demand a repeated examination in the hospital or enough of this old conclusion. After all, the allege did not go away. Simply observed diet, preventive spring drunks of medicines and other measures.
On which stitching can you count?
And when should you sue?
Thankful in advance for the answer.

Re: Allergy to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

Food allergy is a pretty decent diagnosis for getting rid of the call. But it must be confirmed by the hospital and clinical manifestations.
This is the 85th article of poisoning with medicinalmeans, medicines and biological substances, toxic effects of substances of mainly non-medical use. Exposure to external causes (radiation, low, high temperatures and light, increased air or water pressure and other external causes):
The article provides for the consequences of poisoningdrugs, CRT, other toxic substances, acute or chronic effects of EMF, laser radiation, ionizing radiation, other external causes, allergic reactions.
When inspecting servicemen,transferred radiation sickness, not only changes in the composition of peripheral blood, but also other clinical manifestations of the disease. In case of minor residual effects after the military servicemen passing military service on conscription, radiation sickness of the 1st degree, and servicemen undergoing military service on contract, radiation sickness of the second degree, the survey is carried out according to article 86 of the disease schedule.
Persons who have suffered acute radiation sickness without any consequences, are inspected under item "c".
Servicemen working with RW, IRI and receivedirradiation, exceeding the annual maximum permissible dose in 5 times, are sent for in-patient examination. In the absence of signs of radiation sickness, military servicemen undergoing conscription military service on item "c" are recognized as not fit for work with RV and IRI, and the suitability for work with RW and IRI of servicemen undergoing military service on a contract basis is determined on an individual basis.
People with food allergies with clinical manifestations (confirmed by inpatient examination) on basic foodstuffs in accordance with the norms of the allowance of military personnel, are inspected under item "b". With other allergic diseases(urticaria, pollinosis, allergic rhinitis, dermatitis, etc.), the survey is carried out according to the relevant articles of the disease schedule, depending on the status of the functions of the affected organ or system.
After acute poisoning, toxic-allergiceffects of acute allergic diseases (anaphylactic shock, serum sickness, Lyell's syndrome, Stevens-Johnson syndrome), the effects of other external causes, the category of fitness for military service and the military specialty service is determined depending on the outcome of the diseases and functions of the affected organs or systems relevant articles of the disease schedule.

Registration for a consultation by phone:
364-15-29 Moscow
719-84-22 St. Petersburg

Re: Allergy to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

Today I went to the allergic center, made tests, confirmed the allergy (cod, hake (fish such).
But the problem. In the honey map, there are no clinical manifestations of fish (there are only peas, in 10 months the ambulance drove) Now the allergic reaction has shifted to fish.
How can I fix the clinical manifestations?
Question to the DOCTOR. Has the disease schedule changed in 2008? and is there any application for it? where it would be exactly said what to do if there are no clinical manifestations ?.
There is an option to get drunk fish and call an ambulance, but it's extreme. This violates my right to LIFE, and the draft does not have the right to demand from me that I be mutilated to confirm the diagnosis?
Should I write a complaint? in the court to file? to challenge the conclusion of the medical commission?


Doctors say exactly in 2008 they take with allergies to fish? And what should be the minimum clinical symptoms?
If they take me to a hospital, what will they do to me? Kama Sutra teach. fish to feed?
And I read here. that injections and allergy symptoms are lost, these monsters wokenokovskie can so stir up?

MUCH MOST THANKS. save me from the army

Last edited by fish5; 04/09/2008 at 17:45.

Re: Allergy to fish Quincke's edema how to otmazatsya?

1. The schedule of diseases in 2008 did not change.
2. "There is an option to get drunk fish and call an ambulance, but it's extreme." - it is better to eat fish while in the admissions department of the hospital. There are no other methods to confirm food allergy in the amount that is required in the Schedule of Diseases.
People with food allergies with clinical manifestations (confirmed by in-patient examination ) for basic foodstuffs according to the norms of the allowance of servicemen, are inspected under item "b" of the 85th article - category "B".

Registration for a consultation by phone:
364-15-29 Moscow
719-84-22 St. Petersburg