Edema of the periosteum

Inflammation of the periosteum - share experiences

Andrei Klimkovsky. My message did not fit into the size of the personalmessages and I decided to write it openly in the forum - suddenly someone will be useful, and even better, if someone adds or corrects me if I wrote something incorrectly. Quite a frequent trouble for runners. But they say different things about her. Most often it is expected and correctly identified if the pain appears in the area of ​​the front surface of the shin, but it does not always happen there. Padded, she's on bones from all sides and almost anywhere she is attached to a bunch - the question is just what kind of bundle we pull out of the bone inordinately. I was sore from the side from the inside on the left shin above the middle of the height - closer to the knee. I earned by increasing the volume, I started working on the speed (it all turned out somehow concentrated on the load) and did not make elementary warm-ups. In addition, I had a very tough technique - I ran on one socks - 20 km, 30 km - did not touch the heel of the asphalt. This is good for the knee joint, but the uneven periosteum took this load and depreciation on itself. And when you do not do a hitch, then you sleep with your feet clogged - you rest yourself, but your foot runs all the way - it does not relax. I came to the reception to the traumatologist (because the situation was already quite sad - 5 kilometers ran with a wild pain in the lower leg - sometimes straight to tears). He looked at me, probed, listened, explained and calmed down - we must continue to run. if you stop, it will become even worse, but it's natural to run now in a sparing mode and soften the technique - you have to plant a heel on the asphalt - it stretches the muscles of the shins, does not allow to hammer in the end and easier to run. And after the run necessarily hitch - stretching and relaxing exercises. What would have already been inflamed there was traumatologist recommended to plant leeches. No matter what happens again - special insole made on my foot (I had a twisted foot - a kind of flat feet, but in the opposite direction and as a consequence - uneven load on the muscles and ligaments of the shin). I recommended changing the sneakers to normal, running - I also ran into figs-knows what. What have I done? but almost nothing, only softened the technique and began to make a hitch-workout. And in a month and a half or two it passed. In the process while I was going I participated in several competitions and negative dynamics it did not entail. Talking with runners. This trouble at a different time affects up to 70% of runners and those who know what it is, do not even call it a disease or injury. Those who do not know, suffer from time to time, smear with creams and ointments - it does not help in any way. Sometimes they leave the run for years. At this time the periosteum does not disturb. But it's worth returning to easy jogging even after 5 years, and she's right there - she's not gone anywhere. Here such harmless muck.


Chapay. It was the same last year. I missed 6 months of running (because of this injury I did not prepare for the CMC and went down on the 20-ke - after 3 km I could not run any more), wore insoles. -The doctor has defined a flat foot. In spring everything has almost passed. I had to be cautious. Now more and more I forget about this matter, but when the symptoms appear you have to change a little technique and instead of keeping the tempo (tracking the breathing and economy of running) keep your foot in the "right" position. In general, everything is very similar. Pleases that runners do not consider this a disease, i.e. you can live with it.

Andrei Klimkovsky. Chapay writes: Pleases that runners do not consider this a disease, i.e. you can live with it. Why live with it? - it is necessary to cure and live without it.

Vlad. Andrey Klimkovsky I am in your shoeshe would have done it. Nevertheless, the correctly selected insole eliminates the non-correct distribution of the load, which makes it possible to avoid injuries. I have here a good example of my daughter, who has a high arch of foot, i.e. between the heel and toe is a lumen. With running loads, the emergence of microcracks in the upper part of the foot and pains under the kneecap. From the army orders insoles and problems are gone. And he suffered from inflammation of the periosteum, up to six months. There is a reason for another in Pravda. I agree with those that almost all of our injuries are due to disproportionate development and physical disabilities. But there are not many ideal ones. and we must somehow live with this :)

VL. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: Traumatologist recommended planting leeches. I had acute inflammation of the periosteum in the ankle area, as a result of trauma. Moreover, it increased and spread higher. Cured by a single application of leeches.

ROM. VL writes: Cured by a single application of leeches

Dan. I have flat feet, and without insoles over 10 kmpain in the foot began. Insole made in the center "Alternative", which is directly behind Danilov Monastery. The company is headed by K. Santalov, a 3-time world champion in running for 100 km. Now I run (and I walk in them) only in the insoles, it became much easier. So I recommend Andrew insole.

VL. ROM writes: A leech where he took? I was treated by Dr. VI Nechaev. He gave the leeches. Here of course you need to be sure that the leeches are disposable. Find a reliable pharmacy.

taurus. VL writes: Here of course you need to be sure that the leeches are disposable.

Andrei Klimkovsky. Dan writes: So I recommend Andrew insole. This would certainly benefit and possiblysomeday I'll come to this. However, I clearly imagine that these insoles will be made according to the state of the leg at that time and with a certain evolution of my technique and the internal arrangement of the foot (these are ligaments, joints are all alive and have a chance to develop and change) will cease to be that ideal means. But most likely. they at this stage will be an obstacle and a fixer in the direction of improving my running skills, and after all, I just started running and I'm still looking for myself. In addition, I have flat feet in the opposite direction.

Vlad. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: But most likely. they at this stage will be an obstacle. Errors, just the opposite. Order for the run separately, separately for walking. The sooner you come to eomu come, the faster you reduce the probability of injury to a minimum. And do not understand how the insole can influence the technique? Will improve.

Andrei Klimkovsky. Vlad writes: And do not understand how the insole can influence the technique? Will improve. So can it influence or can not?

Vinogradov. The best remedy is cold compresses. A piece of ice or meat from the freezer is applied several times a day + a sharp decrease in loads. Passes without a trace. Checked on yourself and the students. About prophylaxis - insoles and good shoes - the correct statements sounded.

Andrei Klimkovsky. Vinogradov writes: + sharp decrease in loads To zero, or what? What does "sharp". Vinogradov writes: A piece of ice or meat from the freezer Oh. something is somehow doubtful. Vinogradov writes: About prophylaxis - insoles and good shoes - the correct statements sounded. And the technique is not the last role played. Not shoes and insoles make a person a runner.

Ihori. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: on the state of the legs at that time and with a certain evolution. In addition, I have flat feet in the opposite direction. Andrew, and you were checked for flat feet or yourselfSo you think? Until recently, I also thought that with the stop all okay, before during various inspections, there were no complaints about it. And it turned out that she sank. Insoles just stop and support, i.e. prevent. And about the moment and evolution - manufacturers in the price lay such a service as a periodic adjustment (a month, six months, etc.). This work is even more labor-intensive than manufacturing. You run a lot, loads are big, so it's better to think.

BarSeg. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: Oh. something is somehow doubtful. Why is it doubtful? Cold compresses are a known means for removing edema in microtrauma of blood vessels, and the periosteum is just the surface layer containing a dense network of capillaries.

Gosha. Vinogradov writes: The best remedy is cold compresses. The greatest effect is given by the technique: cold-heat. The simplest version in the bath, cold water, and then hot. I was afraid only of this, the pains were on the wall climbed.

Andrei Klimkovsky. Ihori writes: Andrei, have you been checked for flat feet or do you think so yourself? I wrote at the very beginning that I was at a reception with a Traumatologist. Ihori writes: You run a lot, loads are big, so it's better to think. I wonder - how to run so that would notbragging themselves with it. Do not protect yourself from your wrong run with the help of insoles and sneakers with additional damping, namely to run so that it would not be harmful. Considering the corresponding loads and the time of their action. BarSeg writes: Cold compresses are a known means for removing edema in microtrauma of blood vessels, and the periosteum is just the surface layer containing a dense network of capillaries. All right, but when I had another trauma, the doctorsaid that it was necessary to apply ice earlier - now it's a little in vain (I came to the reception on the next day, or even every other day). And the periosteum does not just happen - it's a memory disease. and when it starts to annoy the runner, then there is already no state at which ice or meat will help. It is necessary to treat, but not to bring down swelling. It's like knocking down a temperature - it's not the reason. it can and facilitates the condition, but is not a cure. Gosha writes: The greatest effect is given by the technique: cold-heat. The simplest version in the bath, cold water, and then hot. I was afraid only of this, the pains were on the wall climbed. Again - pain control procedures. They do not eliminate the cause of the sore.

BarSeg. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: And the periosteum does not just happen - it's a memory disease. This is exactly what matters. Ice is applied immediately after the injury. But the injuries of the runner - they are not one-time, but repeated and accumulated after each training. Therefore, in this case - not bestulku. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: It is necessary to treat, but not to bring down swelling. Removing the edema is just the treatment in this case. The use of leeches gives a similar effect.

nazie. I have about the same story for six months,only on the other leg. I made my own insoles - it seems to me that the technique has improved somewhat, the foot stopped to fall inward (without insoles, I, of course, tried to control it, but it turned out only until the moment of fatigue). Ointments and massages helped, but only until the load increased (I wanted to catch up on the joys). Now in the process of treatment with leeches, I felt improvement for three sessions, but for now there is no complete certainty-still, I'll run, for several hours in the mountains, then I will understand how effective these animals are.

Gosha. I think that there is a restructuringthe blood system of the supernumerary, part of the capillaries is destroyed, others are enlarged (at this stage, the pains are terrible), when the system comes to an equilibrium state of pain passes. When running a little and occasionally the situation was repeated from year to year, it was necessary to switch to regular running and normal wages for a couple of months , and then forgot what it is.

Andrei Klimkovsky. nazie writes: only on the other leg. And this - no matter what. BarSeg writes: Ice is applied immediately after the injury. But the injuries of the runner - they are not one-time, but repeated and accumulated after each training. Therefore, in this case - not bestulku. I'll try again. More intelligible: It is impossible to say exactly when exactly those initial causes began that started the overloading of that area of ​​the periosteum where after the inflammation will be witnessed. Each of us is trying to outdo something in some way, to reach a new milestone of opportunities. To a greater or lesser extent, we increase the load. To what extent it is safe for our personal periosteum - even a doctor after a thorough examination does not exactly say - too many factors and characteristics of a personal nature. Therefore, we will not catch the very beginning of the disease. Feel good, nothing hurts, but the process of inflammation has already gone. It may seem to us that the shin was slightly hammered, the caviar was something stiffened, and maybe there was not a significant load, just not enough hesitated, it did not stretch well. And overnight the ligament stretched out from the periosteum and the place became barely noticeable after the next run. so, would you order the ice to be applied the day before yesterday morning early? - it's too late. Or after each training, ice to apply?

BarSeg. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: Or after each training, ice to apply? Yes, after every workout.

Andrei Klimkovsky. BarSeg writes: Yes, after every workout. "Is it really life?" (from)

Neytrino. As with all runners, there were problems withsupratoon. The coach prompted one simple and effective stredstvo: compresses at night with MEDICAL ZHELCHY. The only drawback in this treatment is that the medical bile in pharmacies is sold in 0.5 liter bottles, and the inflammation passes quickly and then there is nowhere to put all the remaining liquid. TREATMENT: the procedure is done at night. Dampen the cloth with bile and attach it to a sore spot, wrap it with cephalic, then with an elastic bandage, then immediately into heat, i.e. under the blanket That's all! A few days of such compresses and inflammation subsides, the pain goes away.

BarSeg. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: "Is it really life?" (from) Yes, not all my life because compresses do, but for nowinjury will not work :) Compresses with bile, I also advised, only on another occasion. No special efficacy noticed, perhaps for the periosteum is better suited.

Vlad. Andrei Klimkovsky writes: So can it influence or can not? It can not, of course. Just pre-distribution of loads is more correct and the risk of injury is less. Not just because they cost more than sneakers :)) Only need a competent spetsa, which will adjust them properly. Make a balvanku (or pig :), and after 2 weeks of operation, the final adjustment and gluing of the upper layer. Working!

const. Just started running, after three weeks, the symptomsinflammation of the periosteum. I wanted to stop training for a while, but found your forum and calmed down. I will take your advice. I'll start with MEDICAL VEGETABLES or leeches. THANKS FOR ADVICE!

const. VL writes: You need to be sure that leeches are disposable. What does one-time leeches mean? And what are the consequences of not one-time use?

Michelle. I read this branch and was frightened. LOVE we are treated. In the 21st century, a PIANO. At first I thought you were joking. At the institute, a lot of people in our team suffered from this disgusting and treated in this way, if the pain is acute for several days in the pool with the apparatus aqua jogger-the run in the pool 15-20min before the training. LED massage on the ankle if you need a big place to bandage the sticky honey. tape running on a soft surface - the ground stadium. after training or 15-20 minutes massage with ice or 15-20 minutes in cold jacuzzi, which was waiting for us as a restorative after heavy training. Standing in the water until the knee is enough in the evening - an ice massage and compresses Carefully with the load - this muck can occur fracture of the leg bones shorter in this case ICE is your best friend. Causes of inflammation often happen-a person recently started running bad shoes or technique a big load or a sharp lifting of the load running up-down about treatment- http://www.tendonitisexpert.com/shin-splints-treatment.html

Michelle. Dan writes: I have flat feet, and without insoles over 10 kmpain in the foot began. Insole made in the center "Alternative", which is directly behind Danilov Monastery. The company is headed by K. Santalov, a 3-time world champion in running for 100 km. Now I run (and I walk in them) only in the insoles, it became much easier. So I recommend Andrew insole. I also supported, 2 years ago, I made my own insoles in this place on the recommendation of the coach. There experts are excellent

Novel. Thanks for the advice, you all help your advice. I wish everyone to achieve great success.

castor. const writes: What does one-time leeches mean? And what are the consequences of not one-time use? When used, the leech is introduced into human tissues (inplace in which she was allowed to suck) anesthetics, as well as something that prevents the blood clotting and several other useful biologically active substances. Therefore, there are pain, inflammation and microthrombi. "In return" leech sucks a little blood. An unscrupulous patient can bring a leech back to the pharmacy, and an unscrupulous pharmacist take it back and sell it to someone else. It is clear that this leech can become an infection carrier. A disposable leech is grown from eggs, and after use is destroyed.

Michelle. Really in drugstores are on sale. I thought you'd find them only in the swamps. And how to make it after drinking. I'm just still in shock that people are still leech treated!

castor. Michel writes: And how to vytashit it after use. Sucking itself falls off itself! Michel writes: I'm just still in shock that people are still leech treated! I myself have not tried it Judging by the fact that all less oftencome across pharmacies where there are leeches, more people prefer more modern methods. On the other hand, the leech is more ecological! Probably, those who already have a successful experience of using leeches (well, medicines that are available now are not always available) to use leeches are calm and are not going to experiment with new drugs (and if an allergy?).

Dima. pancake and I have a week capsicum smear and niproshodit

Dima. pancake and I have a week capsicum smear and niproshodit

Dima. people here is something that does not hurt your leg hurts even more

Andrei Klimkovsky. stretch marks of the lower leg do?

Dima. and in a stop cramps from the periosteum can give here for 17 days I do not run out from behind the periosteum bolbno on the foot to attack than just nemzal already and yesterday the surgeon went to forbid although walking to me is already sky

Dima. and in a stop cramps from the periosteum can give here for 17 days I do not run out from behind the periosteum bolbno on the foot to attack than just nemzal already and yesterday the surgeon went to forbid although walking to me is already sky